PHQ | QUESTIONS: Personality | Ethics | IQ | Emotional Intelligence

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  • Fermi
  • August 31, 2015 at 3:54 am

  Haha. Who’s the funny man!
  I think your logic may be a little skew-whiff.

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  • Fermi
  • August 31, 2015 at 3:46 am

  Very interesting conceptualization of the correlations. I could partially follow with what you were saying, but I haven’t studied much history myself so perhaps I lack some of the background information to grasp the whole picture.

  I’m sure you could write a good essay on it. I’d like to read it when you do.

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  • Fermi
  • August 31, 2015 at 3:35 am

  Good question. I suspect that an ETNJs Te would dominate with morals. The Ni co-pilot would back it up with intuitive conclusions based on information gather from the environment and used in judging “what’s effective in the environment”.

  Of course these are speculations and I think there’s a continuum between using ethics and morals, so anyone can use either or both.

  I’d be interested to hear your description of Ni in this context since you drive with it and it would be more conscious for you than even and ENTJ. I’m not an Ni user so I’m not so personally familiar with it.

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  • Taylor
  • August 30, 2015 at 9:56 pm

  I know Graves level 1+2 hardly fit the renaissance period and the age of enlightenment—enlightenment Europe was far from tribal. I’m thinking of it all in poles. Grave levels 1+5 for the renaissance. Graves level 2+6 for the enlightenment. Graves level 3+7 industrial age. Like…a wheel with spokes. The spoke connects the two opposite points on a circle.

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  • Taylor
  • August 30, 2015 at 9:50 pm

  teeth! that’s the word I was looking for. ha, thanks.

  Yes, a correlation to Graves level/historical epoch/cognitive functions/intelligence was what I was inferring in my first comment.

  I’ve been playing with this idea though its not fully formed yet and still a lot of holes. Super brief run-down with the order: Si, Fe, Fi, Se, Ti, Te, Ni.

  The modern era in the Western world starts in roughly 1500. Lets call that the beginning of the cycle.

  a lot of wild speculation with types of famous people/assigning cognitive functions to movements, I don’t have a long list in mind, just ones off the top of my head at this moment. You can find geniuses of any type in the eras, but perhaps some shine more in certain periods.

  1. Si/Graves level 1: Si-Ne poles. 1500-1620s, Renaissance (Ne), Reformation and Counter Reformation (Ne-Si), Age of exploration (Ne) . Geniuses of the age: Da Vinci (probably an Ne type). Graves level 1 values: well, dark ages right up to this point were largely about survival, very little going on culturally until the renaissance (Ne).

  2. Fe/Graves level 2: Fe-Ti poles. 1620s-early 1800s . Enlightenment (Ti), Baroque (Fe), Revolution (French, American-Bill of Rights—Fe). Graves level 2:“we” feeling with peoples revolutions. Geniuses of the age: Newton (INTP: Ti-Fe)

  3. Fi/Graves level 3: Fi-Te poles. 1800s-1900. imperialism (graves level 3 “warlord”) The industrial revolution (Te), Romanticism+transcendentalism (Fi), Geniuses of the age: Goethe, Emerson, Thoreau (Fi types?)

  4. Se/Graves level 4: 1900s-1940s. Se-Ni poled. Edwardian age+Roaring 20s (Se), mass media+propaganda (perceptions-Ni), massive patriotic/nationalistic fervor before WWI (graves level 4) quite interesting to read primary sources from before the outbreak, everyone speaks of this strange feeling in the air of national spirit they had never sensed before.
  geniuses: well, Einstein but he was most likely a Ti type. mind blank at the moment, but, we do see the rise of the celebrity in this period, many with Se traits. hmm the golden couple Zelda (Se) Fitzgerald and Scott Fitzgerald (Ni). Well, then there’s Hitler, who I believe to be an Ni dom. Again, Ni-Se. Churchill: Se-Ni type. )

  5. Ne/Graves level 5: 1950s-1980s. (see earlier comments)

  6. Ti/Graves level 6: 1980s-now. (see earlier comments)

  yeah, the idea is still in its scatterbrained phase.