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In this episode Joel and Antonia dive deep into the needs and desires of the ISFJ personality type.

In this podcast on the ISFJ personality type you’ll find:

  • ISFJ – Memory/Harmony in the Genius System
  • Easy to overlook just how quirky ISFJs can be.
  • Our survey indicated just how sensitive ISFJs feel. They want to be in relationships and socialize but they find themselves getting overtaxed easily. They have a yin/yang relationship with socializing.
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  • Cognitive Function Stack – the mental processes you use that inform and influence your personality. Each refer to a different way you understand and experience reality.
  • The driver process is Introverted Sensing (Si), which we have nicknamed “Memory.”
  • Memory is a Perceiving process. A way to take in info and understand it. (More info on Memory here.)
  • Memory is about taking in information then post processing. A review process as opposed to in the moment.
  • Si are interested in reliability. What is more reliable than what you have already experienced? All the things you pay attention to become a part of who you are. Your memory stack.
  • These are the most adaptable types over time. You incorporate experiences and they become a part of who you are.
  • ISFJs are rather open to new info especially if they don’t feel threatened. If they have had good experiences over time and don’t face the world with fear, they can be more open.
  • ISFJs personally unique experiences craft them into the unique individuals they become.
  • They can become uber specialists if they wrap their identity around a certain hobby or skill.
  • ISFJs rely upon templates of the world. ISFJs take a new piece of info and if they have experienced it they categorize it with everything else. If there is no experience with it, they will put it on a shelf until they can ruminate on it and see how it fits in with previously held beliefs. As you mature you get better at knowing how everything fits in your world.
  • When people of this type open themselves up to new experiences they get a magnanimous relationship with novelty. They have no problem with other people choosing novelty. They don’t have an antagonistic relationship with newness. They can freely Hold back and observe.
  • An antagonistic relationship may show up for an ISFJ if they have had some trauma. If they feel the universe is hostile they will react more strongly against newness.
  • ISFJs co-pilot is Extraverted Feeling (Fe), which we have nicknamed “Harmony.”
  • ISFJs end up becoming experts of the people in their lives.
  • They are good at understanding human relationships and dynamics.
  • They are sensitive to emotional interplay and dynamics. It becomes the way they make decisions.
  • ISFJs become masters at predicting the behavior of those closest to them.
  • They will often wonder, “What can I do to smooth over the dynamics beforehand?”
  • If you are focused on Harmony and you lead with an adaptive process which incorporates other people’s behaviors, ISFJs have a similar phenomenon to INFJs. INFJs can absorb other’s emotions – even strangers – due to their iNtuitive process. ISFJs aren’t plugged into people in general, but they can be sensitive to the emotional energy of the people in their lives.
  • In fact, it is a struggle for them. “How can I hold space for my loved one without matching and absorbing their emotion?”
  • ISFJs are good for holding space for everyone they come in contact with. but they spend so much time meeting other’s needs that they take a back seat when it comes to their own needs. This can cause burnout.
  • Take the time to meet your own needs and realize that you cannot meet other’s needs if you don’t meet your own.
  • Become more sophisticated at creating better boundaries. Say no every now and then.
  • ISFJs on the survey said they feel a need to be perfect. This is not a natural tendency but it is a loop you can get caught in if you feel others are dependent upon you to create a memory or a successful event.
  • ISFJs 10-year-old process is Introverted Thinking (Ti), which we have nicknamed “Accuracy.”
  • Accuracy is concerned with metrics and data. It is Void of emotional connection. In the 10 year old level, the data comes down to things like the size of a casserole dish or making sure everything is optimized for memory creation. It can come up as perfectionism.
  • We use the 10 year old when we are feeling defensive. ISFJs want to be above reproach. Nobody can blame the ISFJ if they have done everything perfect.
  • ISFJs may cover their furniture with plastic to keep it flawless. However, When you put plastic on your couch it is not optimized for people on the couch. The original intent was to make sure everyone had a good experience, but now it has become about being above reproach. If you remove the plastic, something might spill and the couch may not be pristine but the lived in feel is what we prefer as people.
  • ISFJs need to show up the best they can and then allow other people to have whatever emotions they are going to have.
  • A healthy perspective for an ISFJ to have is, “I am going to do my part to meet people where they’re at, but I’m not going to take responsibility if they don’t have a good time.”
  • ISFJs are not responsible for everyone.
  • Accuracy is Not always a negative aspect of the ISFJ personality. Ti needs to be in support of Fe. Not the other way around. Letting Ti serve Fe would be Like choosing the best possible vantage point for the family to enjoy fireworks.
  • ISFJs often fill roles in the family as the budgeter or bill payer.
  • A lot of ISFJs can be found in early education. Or nursing and midwife roles.
  • The 3-year-old process is Extraverted Intuition (Ne), which we have nicknamed “Exploration.”
  • When ISFJs are safe they can have a very exploratory side to them. They can be into creative and possibilities thinking. Artistic. Martha Stewart type decor. Crafty. They like having a good time. A freedom side.
  • If they use this process when stressed it can show up as being very impulsive. They may crave some novelty. It’s best to use Ne as a creative outlet as opposed to an impulsive space.
  • If you are going to use your inferior process of Exploration, go ahead and paint the kitchen a different color. Don’t run off to Vegas and get married.
  • ISFJs may feel invisible at times. They become so good at getting other people’s needs met that people forget that the ISFJ has needs too.
  • ISFJs need to articulate their needs.
  • Some mentioned in the survey that they feel underappreciated for their profound institutional knowledge. They can be walking encyclopedias of info.
  • ISFJs need to speak up and share their wealth of knowledge.
  • Assertiveness is tough for ISFJs to develop. This is where Harmony can come to the rescue. It encourages them to be assertive.
  • ISFJs can adapt a little too much to situations that aren’t good. They need to create boundaries or they will allow intolerable situations to continue way too long.
  • You’re not fated to anything. You don’t have to deal with negativity and assume that is your role in life. You are allowed to be happy.
  • NLP can help you rewrite how your brain has experienced the past.
  • It is your responsibility to change your world to match your needs.
  • Real Harmony is a win/win.
  • Keep your finger on the pulse of that martyrdom complex and refuse to be a martyr.
  • In this episode Joel and Antonia dive deep into the needs and desires of the ISFJ personality type. #podcast #ISFJ #MBTI

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48 comments

  • Jean
    • Jean
    • April 28, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    Some of what you said seems correct for me but other things don’t. What does that say? Am I something other than ISFJ? For instance, the part about memory isn’t quite accurate for me but the harmony parts are.

  • Nichols
    • Nichols
    • February 25, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    Wow, you certainly hit the nail on the head when you said that an ISFJ would adapt to a crappie situation and assume that is how the universe is going to be for them! That has been a reoccurring theme in my life. Your insight into my personality is a balm on my past hurts….Thank you!

  • Huda
    • Huda
    • November 12, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    Thank you both so much for the insight into my type and everything that you all do to help people to better understand themselves and why they are the way they are. I really appreciate it. I’ll try my best to follow your advice, expecially the part about perfectionism and also learning to say no to people. I understand myself a lot better now. Thanks again!!!!

  • Janette
    • Janette
    • April 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    WOW! Thank you guys for all your research and knowledge expressed on the podcast. Through it I got the answer that began my search and the realization that I have a lot of personal growth to do yet. On a subconscious level I think I knew that I fell back on my 10yr old accuracy when confronted with stress or conflict but not why I do or that I can do something to change that situation. Before this search I would have just defined my self by how intensely I feel for people in my life. Hiccups only occurred when I met difficulty with my 10yr old. I can switch that now that I’m aware, thanks to you guys.
    I have experienced trauma in my life but was extremely lucky to have one parent teacher by word and example that the universe is generally a friendly place. So mostly I don’t act my age, more like a big kid looking at the world with huge eyes of wonder. I would like to give my 3yr old more free reign.
    Having been part of an organization that empowers people with disabilities for 15yrs now, the bank of procedural knowledge and history of the org and personal knowledge of the people is sitting there waiting to be tapped into. So your suggestion of speaking up and offering factual info for shaping pending change was extremely helpful. Just like that my frustration dissapates. Just got to work on that assertive thing!
    Wow again!! What a powerful few minutes to my life. Thanks. Awesome. Life changing!

  • Michael Sanders
    • Michael Sanders
    • March 31, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    Hey, Joel and Antonia!

    Michael here. I appreciated meeting you both recently at the NC meetup.

    Just before leaving, Antonia was saying that she really didn’t get the “ISTJ vibe” from me and that I may actually be an ISFJ. I took this positive feedback and started investigating what makes an ISFJ tick.

    I’m definitely very traditional and see how that is my dominant trait, ISTJ or ISFJ. One of my uncles actually did genealogical research on our family and was able to trace us back to European nobility. These early impressions in my life, along with frequent family reunions, helped form me to be who I am today. I see family and community and tradition as important values to have. One of my friends shared with me how his family tradition was to eat all the samples at Costco and then have a hot dog and a drink for $1.50 afterward. I admired that aspect of his life and started to brainstorm about what traditions I could start for my family or continue to support.

    After listening to your podcast, I certainly could see how I am an ISFJ in that I have had desires in my life to create the perfect experience for my friends or family. This is definitely the tertiary introverted thinking or accuracy trait. The whole idea of wanting to optimize where you stand so that you see the fireworks is a perfect example which actually happened to me once!

    I was with some friends at Disney World in Orlando and we were going to see the fireworks. We have to navigate through an already large crowd at that time. So I suggested that we each place our hand on the shoulder of the person in front of us so that we did not get separated from one another. Then I led the train to the best place we could get to see the fireworks.

    Also, regarding the harmony aspect of my personality, I usually have a hard time saying no. This was feedback from a previous employer. I definitely struggle with boundaries in relationships and my friend shared some resources with me on how to develop healthy boundaries and it was like the holy grail to me. I was thinking, “Where has this been all my life!?”

    As far as the exploratory/fun/Disney side, or exploration trait, I definitely have that as well. My friend has also called it the “X-factor”. This charismatic unexpected side of me that usually leaves most people with their jaws on the floor. It’s only in situations where I feel safe and comfortable. It would be difficult for me to consciously choose to audition in front of thousands of people. It only comes out when I get in my element.

    For example, I was hanging out with some orphans from Uganda one time. We started playing drums together and all of a sudden I found myself singing along with them. There was a sense of being drawn into it that helped me relax and unveil that side that is usually reserved for those who are closest to me.

    Thanks for your podcast!

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