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In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about how to develop a live mindset for personal growth.

 

 

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Most powerful component of your personal growth is your mindset – the soil from which everything else grows.
  • Mindset is your fixed mental attitude or disposition that predetermines your response to and interpretation of situations.
  • Mental inertia.
  • We have multiple different mindsets running at any given time.
  • Determine what your mindsets are and craft them into what you want.
  • The word Mindset may give us the idea that our minds are static, set. Mindset can be your default setting.
  • It’s more like our minds are plastic. The mind can be changed but not with ease. Not in the moment. It takes work, forethought, and practice.
  • GPS units that are programmed in advance and difficult to change once the autopilot is engaged.
  • The mindsets we are working with are the programming we put into our autopilot at some point and usually don’t revisit.
  • Also, if we keep reprogramming our GPS/mindset, we will find it difficult to accomplish anything.
  • The brain’s idea of efficiency may not be the most efficient thing for our lives and how we want to be perceived by the world. The brain creates a neural pathway and keeps using it as a form of energy conservation. But our desires for change and renewal run contrary to the brain’s desire for following already established pathways.
  • We’re not recommending putting amplified thought into every aspect of your lives. That is unsustainable.
  • We recommend people be more thoughtful about their autopilot. How they are programming it. Not outsourcing beliefs and values.
  • If you develop the live mind style, it becomes an active, daily discipline that keeps tabs on that GPS pilot, to ensure you are going toward a live place instead of a stagnant place.
  • Close minded and open minded is your willingness to take in new info – Not necessarily a predictor of action.
  • Dead mind vs. live mind is more dynamic.
  • Dead mind:
    • Has a static way of thinking. It’s stuck.
    • One identity.
    • Focuses on problems.
    • Info phobic – doesn’t want to have to adapt.
    • Focused on answers. Like to tie up loose ends.
    • There’s an assumption that all the answers have already been discovered, so it stops exploring.
    • Not necessarily a conscious belief.
  • Live mind:
    • Has a dynamic view – of things and self.
    • Focuses on solutions.
    • Excited about new info – new input brings growth and change, which is good.
    • Asks right questions that lead to new questions.
    • Believes we don’t know the answers to anything.
    • The advantage with live mind is that you learn the skill of being able to alter your perspective/paradigm as you discover new info. You don’t have to go down with the ship if your old model turns out wrong. You’ve built the skill of not doubling down on info.
  • Better to see as a sliding scale than a toggle.
  • It is a discipline we have to build skill in and maintain, or we will go to the easier path of being in a dead mind place.
  • True adaptability gives you tremendous personal power. It’s not about being a doormat.  
  • Not being a chameleon as much as just being willing to hold things loosely.
  • Be willing to meet people where they are.
  • Develop it as a discipline or lifestyle.
  • Lots of immediate payoff to being in a dead mind place. Ego is always right.
  • The payoff to a live mind is over time. It’s a longer game.
  • When you move from a dead to a live mind, your ego starts taking hits. Being wrong is hard. Making mistakes is hard.
  • The live minded long game starts to feel good when the ego takes a hit because it means you are learning. There’s an opportunity for change and refinement.
  • When you are in a live mind, it is going to touch every aspect of your life.
  • We have to reorient our identity sometimes.
  • We aren’t saying you can’t ever stand for anything or believe anything strongly.
  • A live mind has enough ability to reevaluate what you’re fighting for. Is it worth fighting for it?
  • Strategies for developing live mind:
    • Matter of pursuing content and info that directly contradicts some of your most beloved beliefs and paradigms. Don’t necessarily adopt the opposing perspective, but stay aware of it.
    • The goal of live mind is to ensure you are betting on the right horse.
    • Live mind helps us question our assumptions.
    • Sometimes it helps to admit, at the moment, when your ego is taking a hit.
    • Our most accurate guiding star is the ego hits or triggers. Triggers are often a sign that your ego is flaring up. Use that to reevaluate then rest as your ego adapts.
    • One of the major advantages in pursuing the discipline of a live mindset is that it prevents you from being addicted to being right.
    • When someone is addicted to a belief system they act like junkies if you try and take it away.

 

 

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  • Andrew C.
    Reply

    The description given for ‘live mind’ resembles aspects of extroverted intuition. The description of ‘dead mind’ seems to resemble certain characterizations of introverted sensing. Could it be that your description of ‘live mind and dead mind’ is influenced by the types you two identify with?

    • Antonia Dodge
      Reply

      The source material for both the descriptions and recommendations in this podcast comes from Robert Anton Wilson’s audio program “Robert Anton Wilson Explains Everything (or ‘Old Bob Exposes His Ignorance’).” RAW was an INTJ, and I’d think his bias would lead him to overvalue Ni as opposed to Ne.

      Also, Si isn’t intrinsically “dead mind,” and Ne isn’t intrinsically “live mind.” I’m sure you can think of examples of live minded ISxJs and dead minded ENxPs. At least, I can. :p

      -A-

  • Ponts
    Reply

    Wouldn’t people with either one of the two intuition styles higher up in their function stack be generally speaking more “live minded” as you put it because of usually having a more varied or nuanced perspective(s)?

    Which is not to say that people with intuition as a less developed style could not have a “live mind” !

    • Antonia Dodge
      Reply

      I think live mindedness is more about our relationship with our perceiving process than which specific perceiving process is high in our function stack. I think Si and Se can be portals for live mindedness as much as Ni and Ne, but if we haven’t been trained to use our perceiving process in that way it will lose the natural curiosity and open frame that is naturally associated with perception. I have a close family member who is Ni dominant (INFJ) and they have fully rested into a dead minded state for reason associated with grief and pain. Dead mindedness seems to be how they cope with these feelings. While I understand the attraction to that strategy I also see how it magnifies their grief and pain without any way out.

      My observation is that (regardless of type) we’ve been strongly encouraged to stay in our judging processes as much as possible. I suspect this comes from a fear of lacking vigilance and rendering ourselves vulnerable to physical, emotional or psychological attack. At any rate, if we can train our perceiving processes to keep their curiosity whether they be Si, Se, Ni or Ne it’s only a matter of time for the mind to resurrect itself, so to speak.

      -A-

  • Katie
    Reply

    “I feel like I’m giving up some of my identity to admit this to you…” I totally get this. I love new information, but I’d much rather not admit I was wrong!

    Thank you for this good podcast!

  • John Danzer
    Reply

    Live mind dead mind is really a terrible construct. Dead is bad – Live is good. Live mind connotes
    “good mind” and dead mind means “bad mind”. This trait space has already been labeled in a
    less pejorative way. The characteristics of “Live mind” are the same as the the FFM factor of
    “openness to experience” which also correlates with the MBTI “intuition”. These factors have
    high heritability which suggests that people are born with these traits. If you have to work to
    develop a trait you probably have other traits that you could develop with a bigger benefit
    because it’s already paved by your natural constitution.

    It is less offensive to think of traits as dimensions that can be high or low. This is better than
    adopting another dichotomy that sorts out good and bad. You can be high on the intuition scale
    or low on intuition. You can be high on Sensation or low on Sensation. You can rank high or
    low on openness to experience and that doesn’t mean good or bad. All traits have value in their
    proper context.

    The whole thing sounds like a religious prescription “You must be live minded otherwise you will be a zombie like all those other people.”

    • Tasha
      Reply

      Maybe the use of the words “live” and “dead” are too straightforward for you, but if you are operating from a dead mind like how Joel and Antonia describe, you are essentially not going to evolve as well as someone with a live mind. Any personality trait can be thought of as helpful if you choose to adopt that perspective, but having a dead mind keeps you locked in a box, being opposed to change which can hinder personal growth. How open are you to considering that intuition isn’t genetically gifted to only certain people. That as humans, we’re all born with intuition, empathy and openness. It can be developed and integrated into any person’s life regardless of personality type.

  • Devin Bishop
    Reply

    Oh man. Really excellent challenge.
    Having been raised in a conservative Christian family, this has been a major subject of discourse between my parents and me. Are we capable of admitting that we don’t have “the” answer, is it possible that we’ve accepted some beliefs at face value without exploring, testing, challenging them? Asking these questions and moving in an live mind has been stressful as all get out, but very rewarding.

    Thanks for summarizing this process so clearly! I love finding words and systems that encapsulate mental processes. It’s so helpful, and makes that information all the easier to share with others.

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