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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the noble vices of each personality type.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Betsy Garmon, who we interviewed for our Empowered course for INFJs and INFPs , introduced the idea of noble distractions.
  • What is a noble distraction / noble vice?
  • Why is a noble vice bad for us even though the story around it is good?
    • Looking at codependency as a type of noble vice.
    • The world often rewards us for noble vices
  • How to start looking at your noble vices through your 10 Year Old function
    • An example from some INTP group coaching sessions
    • What is it about our 10 Year Old and the way we use it that makes it a good place to start?
  • What does the noble vice narrative look like for each 10 Year Old function, and how can we use our Copilot to reframe this?
  • ExFPs – Effectiveness (Te)
    • Moving from “a flurry of action” towards “presence”
  • ExTPs – Harmony (Fe)
    • Gaining social approval versus “living your truth”
  • Thoughts on why noble vices can’t go on indefinitely
    • How does feedback keep dissonance going?
    • Internal expectations and noble vices
  • IxFJ – Accuracy (Ti)
    • How can you move from perfectionism to meeting needs?
  • IxTJ – Authenticity (Fi)
    • Moving beyond a static identity
  • INxPs – Memory (Si)
    • The virtue of consistency versus getting out of your comfort zone
  • ISxPs – Perspectives (Ni)
    • Overcoming image management as a vice
  • ESxJs – Exploration (Ne)
    • The importance of slowing down instead of “reinventing the wheel”
  • ENxJs – Sensation (Se)
    • Being active as image management – and how this robs you of “meaning”
  • The noble vices we are rewarded for are the hardest to identify.
  • Looking at noble vices beyond your 10 Year Old function.

In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about the noble vices of each personality type.

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11 comments

  • Anonymous
    • Anonymous
    • March 31, 2021 at 9:15 am

    You should NOT dial down your Introverted Thinking and Extraverted Intuition in order to make other people comfortable. Ti and Ne are part of your genius you were born with to serve others. If they can’t handle your Ti and Ne, that is their problem, not yours. What is worse, if you do dial down your Ti and Ne, and that is your genius, you have nothing to offer others, and you push it into the shadow self, and it will just fight to surface later, often in destructive ways. Embrace your Ti and Ne, and embrace and integrate all aspects of yourself, and NEVER dim any aspect of yourself and your genius to fit in or make others comfortable.

  • Anonymous
    • Anonymous
    • March 31, 2021 at 9:00 am

    STOP caring what other people think about you. You can still be receptive to other people’s ideas, as long as they are not opinions about you.

  • Giancarlo
    • Giancarlo
    • August 25, 2020 at 11:20 am

    As an INTJ, I definitely see where this has come up for me in my life. My tertiary position is Fi (Authenticity). I struggle to find that one thing that will really resonate with me for my career. I also have an ideal of being a truly authentic person in the world, which I’m starting to realize is not a strength for my personality type.

    Very helpful podcast, thanks a lot!

  • Izzy
    • Izzy
    • April 23, 2020 at 10:45 am

    Oh no! My addiction to the thesaurus has been busted! I feel so exposed?

    I was talking to someone in a group for E type 4s/5s and a question was asked about the process of artists of that type and a very recurrent theme emerged that I can also see relating to my MBTI type.
    I used to be preoccupied with creating something totally unique to the point I would get stuck in my head trying to come up with the most “special” idea ever created… (I know… embarrassing?). What I actually ended up producing was absolutely s#!t because I had put no time into developing my craft I didn’t have the skills to put my ideas into practice.

    I’m sure this comes up in so many other areas of my life that I am going to be on the look out for!

    Joel… I absolutely agree with Antonia that you can tell when you are present in your Fi during the podcasts, I feel like I get to see and experience much more of you…. they’re great!
    Same goes for you Antonia with your Ti.

    Both of your kindness and competence still shines through when you are not actively using the tertiary function.

    Mucho Gracias?

  • Bethany
    • Bethany
    • April 23, 2020 at 12:30 am

    Hi, Bethany here, INTJ. Definitely resonate with using “being true to myself” as a reason to not adapt and find what works – especially when it comes to making money. As in, “This job/business is incongruent with my values in some way/not my field”, when really I had secret fears of not performing well. I now find (since doing more personal development work) I have trouble with the EJ noble distraction but with a different flavour. I will putnlots of time into exercise or I “procrastibake”. I do it as a distraction from working on things that really leverage my effectiveness rather than to avoid looking inward as EJs might. I go running and skip the virtual business networking event, for example.

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