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In this podcast Joel and Antonia chat about the deeper differences between judging and perceiving.
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In this podcast you’ll find:
- What’ is a common misconception of what it means to be a Judger?
- Why can it be challenging to understand the distinction between Judgers and Perceivers?
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What does it mean to be a Judger or Perceiver?
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What are the two things that all humans desire simultaneously?
- How do these two desires show up differently for Judgers and Perceivers?
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What important factor, central to understanding the difference between Judgers and Perceivers, is often overlooked?
- How does the difference between Judgers and Perceivers look without this factor?
- Why can examining cognitive functions really help to grasp the differences between Judgers and Perceivers?
- Interested in learning more about the cognitive functions? Ccheck out our podcast The Car Model.
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What does inner world expression for Perceivers look like?
- What are the two Perceiver styles of inner world expression?
- How do Perceivers interact with the outer world?
- What is Perceivers’ relationship to tracking things and the organization of information?
- How can Perceivers feel like their best selves?
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What does inner world expression for Judgers look like?
- What are the two judger styles of inner world expression of Judgers?
- Why can interruptions be jarring for Judgers?
- What is a good trick for Judgers?
- How do Judgers interact with the outer world?
- Where do Judgers get their creativity from?
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What are the two things that all humans desire simultaneously?
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What can type actually tell us about Judgers and Perceivers?
- How can the complexity of life affect how Judgers and Perceivers show up?
- Why are Judgers and Perceivers sometimes envious of envious or frustrated by the opposite preference?
- What are some admirable traits of both Judgers and Perceivers?
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Hi. Thanks for a great podcast. In this I as an ISTJ really think i can use the train of thought metafor.
Your explanation of the -p also helps me understand how some people can task switch much easier than I can.
I has always annoyed me that I can’t seem to access things in my mind as easily has a folder in my drawer, but others seem to be able to do so.
I had a colleague ones how was probably the strongest E—P I have ever met, and he could task switch like crazy, but was not able to put a folder back on my desk correctly :)
I understand you confusion HANNU,
because even some expert Type Teachers have not understood the elegant use of the J /P code as explained by Joel and Antonia in many fine Podcasts. Many folk erroneously think and therefore teach that the J stands for Judging Types, and P stands for Perceiving Types. This mistake has been perpetuated for a 100 years. No. As Antonia explains, P stands for Perceiving Extraverted only. J stands for Judging Extroverted only. Nowhere did Myers and Briggs try to have the J and P code alone indicate one’s Dominant Function. J and P only stand for the directional attitude of the function you prefer to extravert. It is therefore a guide as to what opposite function your prefer to introvert.
It is the use of the First and Fourth letter codes together that gets to the dominant function in attitude. And only then if the forced-choice questions are answered in a consistently clear CHOICE on the two scales – E – I dichotomy and J – P dichotomy.
The two letter pair in the code results mean that Dominant Perceiving Types prefer E and P or I and J while Dominant Judging Types prefer E and J or I and P.
As Jung often said, all introverted functions by their private, inner world nature are difficult to observe out in the objective world. Extraverted functions are more easy to identify. So you need to listen to the content of what is being extraverted to pick the function being used and expressed and to also pick that function’s directional attitude accurately. E.g. Perceiving function (S/N) content is more about observations being experienced with insights describing the data points. Eg. (Se/ Ne) “Oh look at that large, green umbrella I see over there”. Or Si/Ni “I remember seeing a green umbrella there last week and now it is missing”.
Conversely, Judging function (T/F) content sounds more like decisions about observations and data points. Eg. Te/Fe) That green umbrella has to be moved away because …. Or (Ti/Fi I like it/ I do not like it there because ….).
(This should not be assumed as a generalization, only a vent from the dung heap of a dumpster fire, accept judgments accordingly)
you know what, i should start taking notes and make mindmaps from your podcasts, some insights are very indepth and interesting
Hot take after a tense morning dropping a kid off at his camp-
Judging types – Arranging things and ordering things in the external world without thinking about the order of the finer details and then passing responsibility over to the P-type (drop off at “xyz field”, but how do you get to the registration desk? Why did they not mention “park in the Union garage off Emerson” in the instructions?? Come to think of it, why did this J-type not leave me the brochure/flier with a contact phone# I could use to get more information? Oh and some parents showed up with 2 forms but this J-type spouse only informed me of 1 form, what’s that about?)
Perceiving types – Comb the experience down to the finest of details and bore everyone with the minutiae over text message, while forgetting that I still need to schedule service to have the broken trunk-lid opening switch fixed. (Patting myself on the back for scheduling the glass repair on the windshield, but it’s going to happen during a time window conflicting with picking up said kid from his camp….. then reaching out dutifully to sort out responsibility for who does that)