Podcast – Episode 0063 – HAT Model | Healing Achievement Transcendence

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In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about The HAT Model as a framework to do personal growth around either healing, achievement or transcendence.

In this podcast on Healing, Achievement & Transcendence you’ll find:

  • A lot of things are suddenly popping up in life and it’s a impeding our personal growth.
  • We put in a lot of energy on these events and we feel that we can’t just move on the next level.
  • The HAT model stands for Healing, Achievement and Transcendence.
  • Useful in identifying the best coaching type, it allows people to uncover their overarching need that’s unmet in the moment in order to get them to the next model.
  • Healing – Anytime you have trauma, this is something you need to attend to.
  • Achievement – You’re at a baseline of health and you’re trying to get to the next level.
  • Transcendence Work – is anything that has to do spiritual or ego work.
  • Healing from a trauma doesn’t have to be an awful experience that left you damaged. Healing can be a minor traumas we’ve picked from experiences in life and you just need to re-assess your value as a person.
  • The three components of the HAT model may seem confusing to contrast at first because they look alike. One can get them jumbled and having this model helps frame things.
  • It appears that there are more people who are comfortable in the healing component and finding the piece of trauma is interesting to them. No matter what area that they should be focusing on, it’s almost always going to happen on the lens of healing.
  • People can also get stuck when they skip the achievement piece and just rely on the transcendence piece.
  • We will have so many mysterious things happen to us for from within. Oftentimes, we just really don’t feel for a long time and we’re not sure what’s going on.
  • Thinkers have the tendency to ignore their emotional challenges that they focus more on the physical, tangible stuff (e.g. pain).
  • When we avoid development, it leads to mysterious depressions, illness and that feeling of “can’t seem to get to the next level” because we don’t know how to fully manage the drive that’s inside us.
  • The first step is awareness or understanding what’s happening. Be proactive to identify what you need to address.
  • Identify the issue when its presence is unknown.
  • You need to run towards pain, embrace it, and realize that it’s just perception.
  • With healing, we can talk about our existing issues.
  • With transcendence, it’s all about yoga. The uncomfortable side is questioning your beliefs and finding out who you are for the first time in your life.
  • One of the reasons why we get stuck is because we stay in our comfort zones.
  • You can easily identify people who have focused on the three components efficiently.
  • The least comfortable portion is where you need focus on and go.
  • Which track is more comfortable to you and which one is tough?

Things we reference in this podcast:

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  • Samantha

    Finding this model useful, as I think I have been trying to do healing through an achievement lens. I REALLY know how to do achievement, but not so much on the healing (and maybe the transcendence). Do you have any further research, information (book, article, etc) you could refer me to so I could deep dive into this more?

  • Brent

    I like the way you frame HAT as a dynamic interplay since it doesn’t create a false hierarchy which hinders other models (like Integral Theory)–even though we each might be naturally drawn to one or two “legs”. Your analogy of one leg getting too long is also a good way to illustrate over-development of (or over-attachment to) one aspect at the expense of others.

    It might be powerful to add one more key dimension that seems to be missing from most models of consciousness/growth, that is, the structural/contextual/supportive aspect. While healing, achievement, and transcendence are perhaps the “active” modes of growth, without the appropriate support structures and systems (which includes the Maslov’s so-called survival needs you mentioned), none of these can be sustained. This includes specific contexts/environments/communities, supportive friends/family/specialists, regular practices/ritual, and self-sustaining supportive systems.

    Thus perhaps HAT could become “HATS” where S indicates a variety of structural supportive systems including “lower” basic needs.

    • Linda

      I totally agree, especially the procrastinators among us.

  • Tariq Khan

    I’m trying to comment on a podcast I listened to the other day, and I don’t remember the name of the episode exactly, but it covered transcendence, and I wanted to see if you could tell me where I might find more information on ‘unity mind’.

    Antonia seems to use this concept as a positive way to understand people and to give them space, but I’m actually struggling in my relationship with my older brother who I believe is an ESTP (ESFP is a possibility). He fundamentally believes that I (an INTJ) am a different version of him and this drives me insane to the point that I just cut off all communication with him. I’ve blocked him everywhere. His ‘unity mind’ is extremely destructive in our relationship since he cannot acknowledge in any way or form that I am a complete individual that exists with or without him. More than anyone, I think, I need my own personal freedom, my own identity, and my own right to exist. And I don’t see anyway to convince him that different people think differently. If it is called “Unity Mind” then that is something that I loathe!

    At the same time, I’d love to learn more, and I wonder if certain types are inherently more prone to ‘unity mind’ and if so, which ones?

  • Su

    Very interesting model. It would help if you guys can do a podcast or write up about each like how to get out of it or how to enter into it. I found myself entering into Healing process again and again whenever I take a step back to examine growth until it gets a little depressing. I want to Achieve but there’s nothing to achieve.

    • Joel Mark Witt

      Thanks for the question Su. I think that might make a great topic in the future.

  • Merja

    Love love LOVE this!

    I find with my own journey that where I hold myself back most is achievement. I feel lazy about it – because I feel that I have nothing to prove anymore. Except… how to achieve without using it as a form of self punishment. Transcendence…? LOL Loving it! Three-legged race indeed. 😉

  • Andy Spyros

    Love the three-legged race metaphor. I now work with lots of high-achieving individuals who have been “blindsided” by either healing or transcendence items popping up for attention or review. They could only do the achievement piece so long without addressing the other two. Very recently many (OK ALL) of my clients had issues they thought they had dealt with come back for more attention (oh, yeah and me, too) so you are not alone. Sometimes they are upper limit issues, sometimes they are more of a tap on the shoulder (or punch in the gut as it were) to say, “hey, just to let you know, you’re carrying this boulder back here still and if you’d just stop doing that you’d get to your destination much more quickly and easily.” So, yeah, run toward them, meet them at the flagpole or take them out to lunch whatever floats your boat! Even the biggest of issues often dissipates when it’s not trapped under a rug.

    • Joel Mark Witt

      Thank you Andy for the comments. I’m happy the three leg race metaphor is resonating.

  • Amber N.

    This podcast was very refreshing. I love the HAT model you shared! I think I need to focus more on the achieving part. I’ve always been on a growing journey, but it’s hard to find others on that same journey, so hearing some of your experiences is really nice.

    • Joel Mark Witt

      Thanks Amber for sharing. Keep us posted on how it goes for you.

  • Lakshmi Subramanian

    Thanks for yet another content rich podcast.
    I liked the HAT model and the idea of identifying which is my comfort zone and how I may break thru..

    One question I had though about the HAT model is about Transcendence. What are some of the ways to achieve Transcendence?

    I’m aware of few modalities in healing and ways to achieve, but Transcendence is something I cannot grasp my mind around..

    Would appreciate if you may provide some pointers with an example.


    • Antonia Dodge

      Hey, Lakshmi!

      As with healing and achieving, there are a lot of ways to “transcend.” Many people choose to do so via spiritual practice. For me, however, I prefer the concept of transcending the ego. One of my favorite people on this subject is David R Hawkins. Here’s an example of his transcendent journey and what he teaches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnYJS5lg72w

      Obviously, this is a very personal subject (much like healing work). It usually looks spiritual, but for some the spiritual component isn’t super obvious. That’s why it’s difficult to give specific examples. We may do a podcast in the future on our experience with transcendence if it would be helpful. 🙂


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