Podcast – Episode 0087 – Igniting An Intuitive Awakening

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In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about empowering Intuitives to step into leadership and get Intuition into the public consciousness.

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In this podcast on igniting an Intuitive Awakening you’ll find:

  • INFP Podcast
  • Extraverted vs. Introverted Intuition podcast
  • Intuitive Blending podcast
  • There is a massive renaissance right now around Introverts.
  • Quiet by Susan Cain
  • We are in such a massively over communicated period
  • Introvert podcast with Jenn Granneman of Introvert, Dear.
  • Intuitives have very specific needs that nobody gets, except for other Intuitives.
  • We want to infect the social consciousness with the concept of Intuition.
  • The Intuitive/Sensor split isn’t in the social consciousness as much as Introvert/Extravert or Thinker/Feeler.
  • Sometimes a hierarchy or judgment comes with the Sensor/Intuitive split, which may be why it hasn’t entered the social consciousness as much.
  • 75% of the world are Sensors, and 25% are Intuitive.
  • Like left-handed people in a right-handed world. The world isn’t designed for Intuitives.
  • When Intuitives start to understand MBTI, elitism is often the result because they are tired of being marginalized.
  • Reversed snobbery.
  • The world is designed more for Sensors, so Intuitives feel demoralized.
  • Then they realize what Intuition is and it is hard not to feel indignant.
  • Things start to make sense when you find out you’re an Intuitive in a Sensor world.
  • Sometimes we don’t have language to explain what is going on for us until someone else explains it for us.
  • Intuition is not just about behaviors, it is about the wiring of your mind.
  • Advanced pattern recognition.
  • There is a segment of the population that is being underutilized and underserved.
  • We need intuition now more than ever before.
  • There was a lot of infrastructure that needed to be built in the last 150 years. So, Sensors were extremely important.
  • Now that we have the foundation, Intuitives are taking us into the future with new technology.
  • Sensors can be likened to hardware and Intuitives to software.
  • When new software comes in the hardware needs to be updated.
  • The Sensor world has to become more like firmware so it can adapt more quickly.
  • The tension is important between Intuitives and Sensors because the Sensors force Intuitives to vet their information and make sure it is compatible with the infrastructure.
  • Intuitives would keep reinventing the wheel if it wasn’t for Sensors.
  • The best of the best innovations get adopted.
  • Sensors are making sure that all of us are okay. They maintain our quality of life.
  • For the most part, Sensors don’t even know Intuitives exist.
  • Our job is to work with Sensors, so they get to know who we are and what we are about.
  • How can we get Sensors to honor our presence and be open to it?
  • Ladder of Abstraction
  • Language in Thought and Action by S.I. Hayakawa
  • You lose detail as you go up the ladder of abstraction.
  • Your ideas become more concrete as you go down the ladder of abstraction.
  • It’s not about hierarchy.
  • The point of this podcast is that we are trying to create intuitive conversation for people who don’t get it anywhere else.
  • Intuitive conversation can be highly speculative and a little wandering.
  • Seth Godin’s “Unleashing the Idea Virus.”
  • Sneezers = Evangelists
  • We want to share the idea of Intuitives in a non-threatening manner.
  • New thought leads to new action.
  • You aren’t going to lose the things you have if change occurs.
  • The world is getting better in spite of the messaging we sometimes receive.
  • Sensors can be some of the most accommodating to change if it happens over time.
  • Sensors bring a crucial gift to the world in making sure that change is sustainable.
  • “I think differently, and I just wanted you to understand that.”
  • Have the courage to speak up about your differences.
  • It doesn’t have to be about hierarchy.
  • Seek understanding.
  • Finding other people of like minds can be very powerful.
  • What will this look like when it gets in the public consciousness?
  • What will you do and be when the world realizes you are Intuitive?


In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about empowering Intuitives to step into leadership and get Intuition into the public consciousness. #podcast #intuitiveawakening #MBTI

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  • Frank

    Really hits the nail on the head for me. 60 years I have known that I think fundamentally differently.
    Sensors have such a simplistic system of thinking even the very intelligent ones. They are basically just faster RAM than other sensors. Intuitive’s are big picture and can see the obvious mistakes sensors make in their lives with work and relationships. Initiatives can avoid mistakes but it also can freeze them from undertaking initiative with projects
    My major problem has been as an INTJ social interaction, child hood and high school were the worse as others just seem to develop this innate ability to socially interact for better or worse while I was trying to figure out what high school relationships mean. ” Thinking too much”
    I became a physician thanks to blending with the sensors. Medicine is all about sensing.
    The intuitive Dr. House big picture diagnosis situation is very rare and not needed often. Fortunately I found a ENFP spouse and we both understand each other and give each other a lot of room and validation to be ourselves. I think she enjoyed finding an INTJ after being involved with various ES_ _ ‘s who tried to control and limit her.

    So you are doing a good job raising the Intuitive awareness.

  • S.

    I just had an intuitive orgasm! Thank you

  • M.R.

    Great show, as an INTP, hearing this fits so well. It really is saying what I have always thought. Great points in saying to use Intuitives, yet others don’t know what we are or why we would be of any use. Again it is that huge downside of it being to difficult to show what we know so that it is recognized. I know somewhat about personality types now, love the topic actually, yet if you are out there and are an xNxx and you don’t absorb this info, gosh, could be so lost. Again, good episode.

    • M.R.

      one more comment,

      The importance of some of the messages here is huge, because you really are talking about ways that can create huge changes, in theory of course. Like what does it take to get many to buy into new ways? It makes me think of the documentary called Century of Self. The talk about sensors changing or regulating change is really good, very objective unbiased views you two have made.

      Regarding getting this message out there, that of awareness of intuitives, well it’s very much like the awareness of introverts and extroverts. I have heard a lot more use of those words in the last few years, it must have increased from years back. People know what each is now, they may be a little off in their definitions, but the point is that it is out there. That said, maybe in time the Sensor/Intuitive awareness will come to be what the Introvert/Extrovert awareness has become, or I should say it still becoming, because that process is still going on. It can almost be common knowledge to call someone an introvert these days, most people know what it means, again, the sensor/intuitive thing may become household words down the line.

  • Mark

    I just recently started researching the whole personality type stuff and and your content has been this great eye opener for me. I am 54 and my whole life I have been a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. I think so different than everyone in my life I have gotten to where I have been hiding and living very isolated. I am glad that I found your website and content cause it gives me hope that I will be able to go out and find some people who look at the world the same way I do. Thanks for what you do and I will try to do my part and find my place in this intuitive awaking.

    • Charis Branson

      Thanks for the comment Mark. You’re awesome! If you are on Facebook have you checked out our new group? It may help you find some other Intuitives in your area. 🙂

      • Mark

        Yea I am a member already and think it is great.

  • Chrissie

    Hi Antonia and Joel. INTJ female here. I have two thoughts for you as how to ignite an intuitive awakening.

    Number one: “The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.” I was so amazed when several of my extroverted friends made a huge leap forward in understanding me by reading the book “Quiet”. None of them were reading it for themselves (or me) but to better understand their introverted child (or spouse). I would say the majority of mothers want to understand their children…or if they don’t, they are often forced to try to do so when they hit impasses with them or their natural approaches to parenting don’t work with that child. You could create a series on understanding your intuitive child. I bet you could get some good buzz going for that. How many of us intuitives chose blending because we had a mom or family who didn’t get us or discouraged our intuitive tendencies! If moms can better understand their intuitive children, how empowering would that be! They are usually quite the force to be reckoned with when ideas gain traction in their spheres of influence.

    Second suggestion:
    MBTI and the cognitive functions have had such a big impact in my life that I can’t help but share the principles with friends, acquaintances, strangers on a plane, etc.. Because of that, I have had friends on a few occasions ask me to host a happy hour and share some of that MBTI knowledge with them. I haven’t done this yet mainly as a result of being stuck in Ni…need to sit down and use my Te to just hammer out what I would want to share. That led me to the thought, it could be great for you guys to develop an intuitive awakening course that your community could teach in small or large group settings. I know you are running a business and would want to profit from all of your hard work so participants could pay a small fee for course study materials. You have at least one ready teacher here in Texas!

    • Charis Branson

      Thanks Chrissie! Leave it to an INTJ to come up with effective solutions. 😉 I will pass your ideas on to Joel and Antonia.

      If you are being asked to share your knowledge, it means you already have more than the people asking. INTJs/INFJs are notorious for thinking they need more info before they become an authority on something. I would encourage you to just dive in. Whatever you don’t know already, you will learn while teaching others.

      We have an Intuitive Awakening program that comes with a study guide. I’m not sure if you have taken that program yet, but it could help you organize your thoughts more.

      Here is that program: https://www.personalityhacker.com/intuitive-awakening/

  • Evelyn Baker

    A big Thank-You! I really never realized what made me so different from other people. Disapproving looks from teachers, spouses, employers my whole life. I’m a 58 year old ENFP! What a freaking burden. And, what’s worse is I still have expected people to think and see things as I do, and I get so hurt and disappointed. Always the optimist, I.

    • Charis Branson

      Thanks for the comment Evelyn! I really have to admire Intuitives that grew and developed in a world that doubled down on assimilation. I think Intuitives have a much easier time of it now. I’m glad you can start to appreciate your gifts. You are a wonderful example to the rest of us. 🙂

  • Kenneth

    As a Perspectives Driver, I’ll offer that talking about type with other types requires being able to portray their type as something that sounds cool to them. If you can describe their type in a way that resonates with them, both strengths and struggles, and talk about your own type not only in terms of strengths, but the struggles, its a lot easier to have conversations with different types. We prefer our own functions, but we have to understand that those aren’t better, we just like them better. And we have to expect that others prefer their own functions as well.

    • Randy Caba

      Good stuff, Kenneth. As a Perspectives Driver myself, I truly appreciate the concise summary, Costly Communication Mistakes Personalities Make by Mary Miscisin. She Effectively points out all our communication style blindspots and that, because we all hold elements of other personality traits, we sometimes share these faults.

    • Antonia Dodge

      Yeah, I’d definitely agree. Before we enter the Sensor type’s weeks we’re going to be creating podcasts on the Sensory perceiving styles as well as Sensor appreciation. A strong communication of ‘we come in peace’ is imperative for any movement like this.


  • Michael

    Love you both!

    • Charis Branson

      Thanks for the comment, Michael! You’re awesome. 🙂

  • Bethany

    Great podcast! I always love your podcasts. It’s definitely intuitive porn for me 🙂

    I’m an INFP and I have been thinking about Intuitives and Sensors a lot recently as well. I agreed with so many of your thoughts about Ns and Ss, especially about sensor’s tendency to be cautious towards new ideas.

    I’m in college and my roommates are all sensors (ESTJ, ISFJ, and ESFP, I suspect). Two of my roommates (ESTJ & ISFJ) and I were discussing our future plans after graduation, and the N vs S dichotomy was very apparent to me.

    They both have planned out their next ten years, which is not usual, but the meticulous predictions they used blew my mind (they had the year and estimate of when they would have their first child, etc.). All of their plans were essentially the same lifestyle they were raised with. Essentially, it sounded like they wanted a life that was the exact same as their parents. They wanted to live in the same town, work in the same area of town they always worked in, and participate in the same activities they have always done. (I don’t mean to say there is anything wrong with that, FYI).

    As soon as they finishing reciting their life plans, they turned to me. I am not someone who plans like them. My ideas for the future constantly change (as an NP, I am a big fan of having my options as open as possible), but I do have some goals and life ambitions that I believe will not change. My plans, though, are more vague than my sensor roommates: go to graduate school for Speech Language Pathology, write novels, travel as much as possible, etc.

    They were visually uncomfortable with my vague plans, just like I was with their rigid view of the world. I suggested to them various other lifestyle and career choices they may take and they were shocked, and almost scared. They thought I was being weird. For them, the idea of even considering a path that was not the one that they always took was almost sacrilege. Why change something that always worked?

    This mentality is very frustrating because for me, looking at all the options is the only option. Why not change something that always worked to make it better? I think this a common clash Intuitives and Sensors face, or is one I notice often, at least. But anyway, some food for thought.

    Hopefully one day everyone can understanding the needs all types need. I think the use of social media, is the best way to get the language out there for everyone to learn.

    • Charis Branson

      Great example of the Sensor/Intuitive split, Bethany. I have always kept my options open, like you. I remember the exact same kind of conversations happening between me and my friends when I was in Junior High and High School.

      Do you ever find you sometimes envy people who can find contentment with consistency? I look at people who live their whole lives in the same place, have the same friends, and go to the same places and wish I could be the same way. It seems so much more simple than constantly shifting horizons in search of the next adventure.

  • John Danzer

    Intuition is not a mystery. The big five system describes them as being high on “Openness to experience”. This is contrasted with Authoritarian types.

    The “mystical” intuition that people refer to is usually a “feeling”. People who are feelers (quite often women) more than thinkers aren’t aware of their own thinking and their thinking emerges in the form of a feeling of something foreboding. More often the flash that they call “intuition” is about some negative possibility.

    On the other hand the pattern recognition that emerges as “intuition” or “creativity” comes from a rich interconnection that results from a wide open -non judgemental gathering of experiences. People high on openness are more inclined to explore. The intuitive flash called an “aha” experience is not some vague feeling of discomfort or hidden danger but is a clear gestalt connection that fits a pattern that enlarges a person’s understanding.

  • Jill

    Enjoyed this podcast.

    When I first learned that there are other Ns out there, it was a huge and welcome revelation. Nevertheless, you were spot on about needing both
    and Ss’ ability to keep Ns grounded.

    Case in point. I am an N; my husband is an S. The other night, I told him that what keeps me up at night is figuring out how to apply technology to hunger, poverty, and peace. He said that’s great, but what keeps him up at night is figuring out how to keep our family fed, clothed, and safe. 😉

  • Amanda Panda

    AH! This has been one of my favorite podcasts! I am an ENFJ, with a very strong intuitive driving force and was raised in a family of sensors(Besides my one INFJ sister). This explains a lot of my pains growing up and learning to deal with sensor types. I learned from my best friend who is a Sensor how to co-live with them and my family too. And now I am great at hiding my intuitive nature, although it still comes out and I find people laugh at it often seeing it as a joke or silly thoughts. But I am able to connect the dots every quickly and easily.

    During movies even I will get up for the restroom or get a snack and keep it playing, my roommates do not understand why I would want to miss anything, but I find it kind of fun to come back and put the missing pieces together and understand the plot line and where it is going. A good blog for this is: http://misadventureswithintjs.tumblr.com/ <<< I totally love how I now understand this and can see why my friends that are Ns have a hard time as well.

    It is just sad that we have to mask it, otherwise we are seen as weird or silly for being able to see and think outside the box.

    I have also noticed and curious if others agree, that over time intuitives can become sensors as they age merely because they have to attend to the details of life and surviving.

    Sorry, I just find this super interesting and wish others would understand us so I would not have to hide my creative thoughts and mind, although for reason Antonia explained sensors are very important in life!!!!

    Much thanks,

    • arabella

      Hi Amanda Panda,

      Regarding your question about becoming more of a sensor as we age, I guess that we perhaps learn to “compensate” more with time even if our cognitive wiring stays the same. But in my case, the opposite has occurred. I grew up in an SJ/SP family and it was adapt or pretty much go under. The boot was on my head for many years. So when I got away from all that, I started growing into my intuitive self and now, in my early forties, I’m fully embracing it. Of course, it was always there and always found outlets in music and journalling, for example, but I suppressed it for a long time.

      I loved this podcast too and want to assure Joel and Antonia that I’m doing all I can to spread the intuitive message. One thing that’s occured to me, though, and maybe others too, is that having “public” Facebook groups is offputting when it comes to joining in the conversation. I’m sure I’m not the only one who doesn’t post there because of this. A “closed” group would be much better, even though all information shared online is obviously in the public domain. I can see the arguments for having a public group, but you may be missing out on new interactions because of it (this discussion often comes up on Facebook MBTI groups so you might want to consider looking into it).

  • Randy Caba

    I remember reading that Intuition may be a somewhat recent human evolutionary trait, hence its relative scarcity, and that it is likely the conscious mind conversing with the subconscious or even unconscious mind. How many of you Intuitive dominants enjoy talking to yourself? Do you sometimes giggle at an unexpected perspective, a voice that seemingly came from nowhere? I wonder what percentage of stand up comics are Intuitive dominants.

    If Intuition is a conversation with a hidden part of ourselves, I find mine is deeply curious, often creates little stories, is fairly trustworthy, quite likeable and a bit of a jokester too. This is one reason this INTJ loves privacy. For long periods, I’m good company if even only to myself 🙂 Besides, consciousness is somewhat overrated – human comprehension is more than just awareness deep. I do try to vet most Intuitions headed into the ‘real world’ though as human history has shown Intuition can be fraught with errors. Is it any wonder then that some people don’t trust us when we wear our Intuition on our sleeve?

    It’s important to be mindful too that cognitive preferences are just that, preferred mental routines. We all house the two perceiving functions of Intuition and Sensation as well as the two functions that judge (evaluate) what we perceived, both Thinking and Feeling, the two expressions of Extroversion and Introversion, and how we come to decisions then act based upon the Perceiving or Judging routine. And none are throttled at 100%. I do often wonder what a being would be like that could use 100% of our human cognitive processes or exhibited cognitive abilities yet unknown to us.

    I wonder too if it’s my dominant Introverted Intuitive role that attracts those, and me to them, that struggle psychologically. I’ve lived with a few creative ladies that eventually were diagnosed with mental strifes. A crisis counselor once told me that few people could be a caregiver for months at a time to someone in a crippling psychosis. But I was raised next door to a schizophrenic uncle back in the 1960s and 70s when there was little help so, maybe that is part of the ability. Then again, as Antonia once casted, INTJs can get inside the head of others and understand their perspectives or motives without bias (at least initially). I’ve always found these ladies deeply interesting up until the roller coaster they sometimes road upon completely left the tracks.

    As for shedding light upon Introversion, perhaps consider submitting articles to local and even national newspapers or request that regular columnists address the Intuitive function. After all, we all use it. Blogging is a good tool. Some creative souls could conjure YouTube channels to promote Intuition education or at least post regularly to the many MBTI channels that already exist. The more adventureous and imaginitive could apply to kickstarter.com to get bigger ideas off the ground… Intuition TV anyone? Requesting more Intuitive TedTalks come to mind too.

    As always, thanks for the cognitive stirring.

    • Jill

      I like this post Randy. Alot of good ideas. 🙂

  • Foday

    Simply associate intuitive developement with the inner child or child development.

    We all have an inner child and a healthy adult is an adult who is aware and nurtures his or her inner child.

  • Dana

    Joel and Antonia,

    I think you make some great points about the connotations around “intuitive” that arise from different communities. Thinking academically, some intuitive practitioners may disagree with your ideas because they lead or work with skill-driven Communities of Practice.

    By comparison, you seek to foster a Community of Interest for people who share the N identity/experience. As Antonia noted, formal skills and expertise are not prerequisites: the emphasis is identity-driven. Raising awareness by sharing my profile with friends and family is one idea. Similarly, how are other identity-driven communities connecting with members AND speaking their truth? Is it time for some tweet-ups or meet-ups?

    P.S. If intuitive pornography is your goal, mission accomplished.

    • Charis Branson

      Thanks for the comment, Dana! And for the new term. I’ve never heard of Tweet-ups. 🙂

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