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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the idealism we develop around our judging functions.
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Utopia is great. I’m an infj and a favorite reminder quote for myself is “You’re not God, this isn’t heaven, don’t be a jerk.” ~ a wise old Jesuit priest (of course… probably an NF!)
Ah… I like utopia!
It implies that not only is everyone cooperating, but they have to cooperate because they are already all on one wavelength. This definitely resonates with me, and reflects something that I was saying in an above comment about my experience of ideals— my harmony 3 year old idealizes that everyone should be on the same wavelength (as me) so that we (I) can feel connected.
Peace feels like it muddies the water (IMO) because it can be inner/outer/world/whirled (HA!)
Harmony denotes a cooperation, which is, from my understanding, what Fe is seeking – the emotional and ultimately social impact decisions have on the WHOLE. Fe is an outside world function. Peace can be either and more subjectively perceived by the individual. Harmony seems like it can be measured externally and more objectively.
The idea of “How do I get everyone’s needs met?” is not subjective because you have to check-in with the people for whom you’re trying to meet needs. I have trouble imagining someone who uses Fe as a driver (ENFJ/ESFJ) quietly and peacefully meeting needs without doing so. That’s not just peace, IMO.
For what it’s worth.
The only word that’s coming up for me is ‘utopia’.
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Hey Joel, keep up your fussiness lol. One reason I continue to follow your podcasts and writings is that I can count on them being consistently professional – both content and presentation. There are many people out there doing some good personality and growth work but they do not present professionally. You two stand out in that respect and, in my mind, it’s well worth taking the time to keep your edge.