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In this episode, Joel and Antonia go on a journey of discovery where they showcase the need for positively expressed Introverted Feeling in today’s world.
In this podcast you’ll find:
- The Wire (HBO)
- Introverted Intuition (Ni) “Perspectives”
- Ni is a perceiving process
- Dominant function for INTJs & INFJs
- Copilot function for ENTJs & ENFJs
- Real understanding without the depth of intimacy that Fi feels.
- Ni feels objective. Understanding for understanding sake without empathy.
- Being able to understand someone is different from validating their feelings.
- Compassion can be the result, but it’s not the mechanism Ni uses when understanding another person’s perspective.
- Ni gives us the ability to study things dispassionately
- NTJs are more likely to look at everything in concepts of systems.
- NFJs are more likely to look at people as systems.
- But both can play both sides.
- It’s about removing the individual’s personal feelings, so those feelings don’t create bias.
- To get underneath what is happening
- Fully clocked Ni is a simulation of Se which observes reality as it comes.
- Instead of outside world sensory info (Se), Ni simulates that process internally.
- Entire realities created within itself.
- If some of our language around Ni sounds like Ti and Fi, remember that T/F are judging functions. N/S are learning functions.
- Ti is looking for truth
- Fi is looking for intent/desire
- Ni doesn’t want anything. It follows its internal bliss and allows things to surface as it will.
- It has the intent of insight, but it doesn’t want anything. It’s just observing.
- Ni is captured by simulated reality.
- Si has a past orientation. Impressions built over time. Experiential.
- Ni doesn’t have to experience something. It takes what it understands about sensory stimuli and creates simulations of reality.
- Why does the world need Ni?
- Black Mirror (Netflix) looks at how technology advances to dystopian futures.
- Ni developed to assist survival situations.
- What does it look like if this happens?
- Ni gives us the importance of consequences.
- Ni can run the simulation and share it in a way that others can understand.
- What will happen down the line if I knock this domino over here?
- Ni taps into the depth of imagination.
- Ni looks at the fundamental principles of the human mind.
- How do minds operate? What are the patterns that the human mind tends to attach?
- Fi: “Whatever is most personal is most universal.”
- Ni: “The macro reflects the micro, and the micro reflects the macro.”
- We have a lot of disagreements right now; Ni can help bridge the gap to create a simulated shared reality.
- For Fi, it understands the power of narrative, and if it doesn’t dive deep into its intent and motivation, it can start to manipulate the power of narrative to get what it wants.
- Getting to that dispassionate place is hard for NJs (especially NFJs).
- NJs mind has given them a place to go to create psychological distance from people.
- Ni can keep shifting perspectives until it finds one it likes.
- “I’ll just find a perspective where I’m happy.”
- What crosses supports you.
- All of our strengths can be turned against ourselves.
- Ni can get so lost in its simulations that it doesn’t bring its gifts to the world. It just stays in a place that isn’t good because it can make peace with it… for a time.
- The world needs sophisticated Ni to keep the gift of being able to see multiple perspectives and run simulations of worlds that haven’t been created.
- The world needs Ni.
- We are entering a more complex world. We cannot know what is going to happen.
- We aren’t going to make it as the human race unless we have a future perspective showing us where we are heading.
- Ni in the backseat can still give you a future paced viewpoint.
- ESTP: “Some people don’t know they’re alive unless they’re in pain.”
- They understand that people come with certain mindsets.
- Fi can hold space for the darkness of the heart.
- Ti can hold space for people’s darker thoughts.
- Ni can hold space for people’s mindsets that aren’t serving them.
- Si can hold space for people with dark pasts.
- Ni taps into how we talk to ourselves.
- Ni users love NLP: How our minds construct reality.
- ePrime
- Inner dialogue is not the same as inner narrative.
- Tap into the inner dialogue and the way you use words to describe your reality.
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I had an INFJ friend a few years back who fell in love with a guy that wasn’t interested. She created this entire world in her mind where his behaviour (not wanting the relationship) made sense looking through the lens of the perspective she stuck to, which was of course that he was also very interested. The friendship didn’t last once I decided not to live in her perspective anymore. I say live in because being around her was like entering a world that existed next to reality. But again, I showed the same behaviour of picking a perspective and defending it against any other input that would make me question it.
The functions don’t operate in silos, so all NFJ’s Ni will be intrinsically linked to Fe. But the function, itself, doesn’t create those evaluations. You’re correct – Ni is also paired with Te and operates very differently.
Having some psychic distance is what allows INFJs to find a space of solace in their Ni/Ti. Otherwise other people’s emotions would be too overwhelming.
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Hello, INTJ here, I’ve listened to your podcasts for a few months now, I think this one is the best you’ve done at describing Ni. Some thoughts -
- I’m trying to understand what you mean by “rewiring the code in your head” when you describe Ti. As a non-Ti user, it sounds really similar to how you describe Ni as “rewriting your mindset towards something”. Maybe a concrete example could help?
- consequences is a good way to think about Ni. Note – Ni doesn’t attach judgement to consequences, they just are what the are. Maybe outcomes is a better word without connotations.
- one integral part of Ni you forgot to mention this time around is the distillation process. After you see things from all perspectives, you understand it in it’s essence.
- to give a more common example of unhealthy Ni: you see two data points making a pattern and suddenly you’re 30 years into the future, oh god these are the consequences, I MUST ADDRESS THE SITUATION IMMEDIATELY or worse, I resign myself to this fate. They don’t frame it as a one of many possibilities like Ne does, it’s a strong belief that THIS EXACT SCENARIO WILL HAPPEN SHOULD WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH. Most of the time though it’s is making a mountain out of a mole Hill, the 3rd data point will disprove your theory. Immature NJs are known for being control freaks for this reason.
- for the skeptics in the room… When I first heard about it I thought the whole thing about seeing perspectives without judgement and being able to predict behaviors was bunk. Then I changed teams and my work became a lot more ppl focused, and suddenly I realized that no one else was picking up on things that seemed patently obvious to me! It was crazy! After meetings they would discuss things like why do you think X said this or what should we do now and I’m just like, wait were we not in the same meeting? It’s obvious what they meant!
I realize now I grew up and worked with a lot of other INTJs…lol.
Okay, interesting. So maybe I explore possibilities, because I definitely don’t think I identify with the simulation building.
Ne thinks in possibilities, but it is hampered in its ability to run simulations. That’s why it acts much quicker than Ni – it pattern recognizes as it’s in motion. And as the other side of the Ne/Si polarity, it pulls on the past to navigate the novelty it has now introduced into its life.
Running a simulation of how the future will look isn’t an Ne/Si polarity strength. There are many Black Mirror episodes that deal in the realm of Ne/Si (for instance, the episode where people could record literally every interaction and review it/get lost in it), but the actual forecasting of how the future would look with these kinds of technologies available is an Ni simulation.
I don’t know the best-fit type of the show creator. I haven’t met them personally.
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