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In this episode, Joel and Antonia talk about the struggles Perceivers have with schedules.

In this podcast you’ll find:

  • Scrum Board
  • Schedule vs. rhythm
  • Judgers create the schedule first then the rhythm comes from the schedule
  • But for perceivers, we suspect the rhythm comes first, and the schedule evolves around it
  • Perceivers can get unrealistic about how much they can get done at any given time, so they struggle with sticking to a schedule.
  • They will abandon schedules because they never seem to work.
  • When you have an extraverted Judging function higher up in your stack, it is easier for you to keep track of what is happening over a long period of time.
  • EPs fixation is unfettered freedom, so schedules can feel like life has no color.
  • They may unconsciously sabotage a schedule to maintain their freedom.
  • Judgers put a schedule to paper, and it becomes their motivation.
  • To check it off the to-do list.
  • Perceivers hate To-Do lists.
  • Schedules facilitate you to do the things you want to do.
  • All of us have stuff we don’t want to do, but it’s the best way to get something done.
  • Perceivers – Make peace with your schedule.
  • Schedules don’t have to hurt.
  • Find what works for you and craft your schedule around it.
  • Schedules are a platform for opportunity.
  • When you are trying to figure something out, you aren’t sure which rules you can break.
  • So, Perceivers may often look more militant about maintaining schedules than Judgers because they don’t know how to adapt if something goes wrong with their schedule.
  • Perceivers can tend to forget what they accomplish, too.
  • Celebrate the things you accomplish.
  • Create anchor events for yourself that are non-negotiable then fit the other things around the anchor events.
  • Anchor events may not happen until you find your rhythm.
  • Perceivers – Make peace with the schedule and go with the rhythms of your life.
  • Go to bed at a decent time, so you have more energy to accomplish things.
  • Drink plenty of water
  • Exercise
  • Eat nutritious food
  • Put your shoes on every day
  • Judgers need to make sure they don’t have too much energy sapping things in their schedule
  • When they were designing Disneyland, there was a patch of grass people kept cutting through, so Disney told them to pave it and create a path.
  • Judgers create this Stay off the Grass situation and force themselves into a schedule that isn’t energy efficient.
  • Judgers – make sure you aren’t wasting time and effort by shoe-horning yourself into a schedule that is too arduous.

In this episode Joel and Antonia talk about the struggles Perceivers have with schedules.

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33 comments

  • Peg
    • Peg
    • September 19, 2019 at 7:11 pm

    This was great. As an ENFP my goal in life was always to have no schedule. Nobody telling me when to do what. Then last year I lost my corporate job. I really didn’t want to set myself any schedule, but even if I did, I never liked anything I came up with. And ESTP friend of mine gave me some suggestions but I couldn’t even stick with that.

    I really hear Antonia, too, when she says if you don’t stick to a schedule it’s gone. I used to drink water so that I was counting every ounce I drank. And I was pretty rigid about my meditation schedule. Then my teacher/coach said I was being too rigid with parts of my life. Well, guess what? I probably never drink quite enough water. And even though I do other energy, relaxation methods, my main meditation is never on a regular basis anymore. LOL

    Thanks so much for this one, guys. I love all of your stuff but this one really resonated. I have some things I’ve been studying and working on for years but now I need to take the first step to starting my own business. You guys give great encouragement.

  • Antonia Dodge
    • Antonia Dodge
    • September 19, 2019 at 3:07 am

    Fascinating concept – thanks for the book recommendation!

    A

  • Stephanie Knol
    • Stephanie Knol
    • September 19, 2019 at 4:16 am

    Wow! What a brilliant idea! As an INFP I completely identify with what you are saying. I’m going to check out the book and try a new way of going with the “flow”. (Sorry, couldn’t resist).

  • Lisa
    • Lisa
    • September 19, 2019 at 12:50 am

    Antonia (and other female perceivers), I highly recommend you check out the book Period Power by Maisie Hill. It’s been a real paradigm shifter in regards to both my health and the way I approach creating structure and schedules in my life.

    As an INFP, in the past I’ve always seesawed between two extremes: either feeling totally suffocated when external sources like school or work enforced a rigid schedule on me, or when I’ve had the freedom to create my own schedule, I end up not being able to stick to it and feel guilty and useless and frustrated.

    Before I read this book, when I created schedules for myself, I did so in a very linear, archetypically masculine way. I worked from the assumption that I would be pretty much the same every day, so in my mind every day should be equally “productive”. When I ended up not being able to accomplish the tasks on my to do list, I’d throw the baby out with the bathwater and give up entirely.

    Then I started charting my menstrual cycle (writing down a bunch of metrics every day, from my mood to my sleep to how my skin looked to what my digestion was like, etc). After a couple of months, it became obvious that my moods and energy levels were hilariously predictable based on when different hormones were either building up or plummeting, down to the day.

    I then started creating a loose new schedule based on what I’d found. There are parts of my cycle where I feel excited, full of new ideas, and much more social than I usually do. I’ve been trying to use those times to dive into new creative projects, to start new eating habits, and to try to exercise my Ne co-pilot and have new adventures in the outside world.

    There are times when I want to withdraw, when I become a lot more energetically sensitive, when the company of others feels irritating. I use those times to dive into all my introverted feeling fun-time activities—journaling, studying various psychological and mystical systems, etc.

    There are time periods when I’m just downright exhausted, and during those I try to let my introverted sensing take charge by resting, nourishing my body, and indulging in comforts like watching an old movie or reading a novel.

    Approaching my schedule this way has gone a long way to remove the near-constant cloud of guilt that looms over my head, telling me I’m not doing enough. I think even for those Perceivers who don’t menstruate and therefore don’t experience these hormone shifts throughout every month, setting a schedule based on your own cyclical rhythms rather than on an arbitrary linear structure could be really healing.

    Which is exactly what you were talking about on the podcast, Joel and Antonia! I just wanted to add the lens of female health into the mix.

  • Jen
    • Jen
    • September 17, 2019 at 8:39 pm

    Hey I relate to basically everything you said here!!! Lol. Day to day time management sucks… And weekly lists and goals DO help! I’ve actually started a productivity planner… Which is nice for not getting me too off track as my goals can change hour to hour… Good ol Fe! Lol. And prioritizing myself and my *own goals, health etc?! Not a chance. Weekly Pilates has been good, because, as said above, holding to commitments to others is much more available to me than committing to myself.
    Anyway thanks for the insights and tips! Nice to feel community in our strengths and struggles.

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