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In this episode of the Personality Hacker podcast, Joel and Antonia continue their conversation about Strauss and Howe’s work on Generational Theory and how it might help us understand current world conditions.
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In this podcast you’ll find:
- Get the foundation of generational theory by listening to our previous podcast, Generational Theory and Archetypes (Part 1).
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Discover which generation you are in: the official dates for each generation.
- Find the full list of dates for all generations on wikipedia.
- What are the 4 generational archetypes?
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What is the generational archetypal energy of the Boomers?
- How does each of the 4 seasons of generational theory show up for the Boomer’s generational archetype?
- What are some main concerns and issues that are showing up for Boomers in the current season?
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What generation is approximately born during the season of “Summer” in generational theory?
- Why are they often considered to be the neglected generation?
- How does this generational archetype usually approach the world?
- How does each of the 4 seasons of generational theory show up for this generational archetype?
- Why is there generally a harshness around this generational archetype?
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When is the generational archetype energy known as the “hero” born?
- Why is this generational archetype energy called the hero?
- How does each of the 4 seasons of generational theory show up for the hero generational archetype?
- What is one of the main issues that this generation is dealing with right now?
- What kind of energy does this generation bring?
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What is the last generational archetype energy?
- How is this generation treated and what are some expectations for this generational archetype?
- Why are they called “artists”?
- How does each of the 4 seasons of generational theory show up for this generational archetype?
- Which areas do they usually become influential in?
- Why all the generational archetypal energies are important
- What is happening right now in regards to the generational archetypal energies?
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Millenial ISFP here.
It would be interesting to see how each of the 16 types act in each generational archetype as well. Like how would an ISFP Gen Z differ from an ISFP in Gen X for example? Or an ISTJ or ENFJ etc. How each generation plays out in each generation would be interesting in it of itself.
I also wanted to comment on something Joel said, about how all these super hero and Marvel-type movies were coming into popularity during the coming of age of Millenials. I did some research out of curiosity, and I think a similar occurrence happened with the previous “hero” generation. According to an article I read on Wikipedia, the “Golden age of comic books” started around 1938 which was approximately when the last crisis era would have been taking place (and please correct me if I have the timeline wrong). So therefore the “Hero” generation at the time was getting some similar messages in pop culture at the time as Millenials do today. I think that’s very fascinating!
Interesting. I need to listen to part 1-2 again to take in more detail. I haven’t spent much time studying generational labels. I heard about “boomers” several decades ago and belatedly found out I was labeled an “X”. The only thing I got out of an X is I always felt ignored generationally, as the only 2 generations that garner mention are the boomers and the millenials (I tend to find millenials have an arrogant streak—not all, of course, but some). And quite frankly, this podcast was helpful in giving me some idea of what others perceive label X people to be because people throw around the terms but seldom explain the meaning and traits behind the labels. My only knowledge definition for boomers was post WWII babies. Not helpful in understanding the distinctions.
So thanks for shedding light on this subject. I look forward to listening again for further clarity.
To follow up..again so much to think about..You are spot on with not everyone fitting a model. There are definitely Gen Y and Z go getters who do amazingly creative and capable self-starters(following up on my earlier post) and stand out in part because, well, they stand out. There are Gen Xers who were raised the youngest sibling of a family of Boomers and so behave more like Boomers. There are definitely splits in the older and younger Boomer set..eg the Generation Jones moniker for the younger Boomers. Ironically, the Greatest Generation did not think of themselves this way…that was a Boomer name for them. In fact, they were raised by folks who came of age in the 1930s and 1940s who were not at all sure these younger kids really “got it” and were just interested in partying to the latest swing band (eg David Riesmann’s Lonely Crowd). There are Silents who were raised by grandparents in the Depression rather than their parents.
This GenXer thinks this is an even better follow up to part 1. Want to find a way to include this in class. I was actually raised in a nurturing, supportive almost Leave It To Beaver home (more coddled than latchkey here) but definitely relate to the Zeitgeist idea. The pragmatic whatever works idea makes so much sense to me. Think of all the pop culture references we got growing up about making things work: “Do…or do not…there is no try,”“Just do it,”“git ’er done,” “make it so,” etc. etc. Of course, towards that, we were sorta taught to swim by being thrown off the proverbial dock. In school, from grade school to grad school, a research project was “here is the project. Go. Do. Figure it out. Come back when you are done.” My Gen Y and Gen Z students short circuit with that…they want to be told not just what do do but how to do it, and will come back with an idea to make sure it is okay. Then they will do that..exactly what I told them..and often nary a micron more. When I say “well, this is great but you could have developed a or b,” they say, “why didn’t you tell me to do that?”
As a department chair, it is funny how almost all my fellow chairs and lower administrators are Gen X and so many of us found ourselves pushed into the role. I joke that a Gen X power struggle is a group of people all scrambling to not be in charge and the loser ends up being the leader. A related issue, though, is that Boomers, once they were in charge, proceeded to hold onto leadership for literally decades so there was no gentle sheltering of future leaders. Often, it was a boomer who had been there for a long time and when they decided to step down or retire, it was like “now what do we do?” I have long said that Boomers are like mighty, majestic oaks whos canopy limited the rain and light that made it to the forest floor so when those oaks finally fall, all that remain are seedlings.
So much to think about.
The best book to start with is “The Fourth Turning” by Neil Howe and William Strauss. Thanks for listening!
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